Go to the middle of the maintained trails. The search for beauty Cervantes Prize He sped up his routines and the amount of compromise disappeared. In this way, with maletas abiertas, the middle hacer, it is time to attend to El Cultural, shortly before the flight over the Atlantic.
In Madrid he will be dressed with pomp and circumstance. Realize that in verse you feel “abrumado”, in the name of the most important gallardón of Spanish literature, at the top of the writers who marked their literary rumbo, and you can decide that it is also vital because Carpentier y Borges. This last poem – “Cambridge” – returns the title of her autobiography, This is a round piece of meat (Tusks).
These old people are paralyzed Gonzalo Celorio (CDMX, 1948) a perfect metaphor for memory due to its fragmentary and random nature. And so you unravel the story of your past, beneath the chaotic logic with which memories flow. So…
His classes at the UNAM Faculty of Letters – always full of students delivered by his baritone voice and his explanatory rigor – on passion for Spain (Siglo de Oro, flamenco, republican exile…), on request for popular places in the center of Mexico City (with Bar León near the cathedral as the main night reference: bolero, tequila and promiscuous friends), about the thankless experience on the front page of the powerful editorial of the Economic Culture Fund (the book library that was opened in Havana is located in the government department of Fox), her many sentimental wanderings, her homes and her neighborhoods in the “inevitable and uninhabitable” megapolis of Chilanga (Rome, Coyoacán…), her family of apostates (two of her brothers accompanied the habits of turning into the revolution and the academy)…
Celorio can admit without a doubt that he was alive. And then, clearly, at the age of 78, after discovering cancer in the gargantuan, he told her vocal abilities without embargo (“If I quickly forgot the battery”). For this reason, please respond in writing. Good.
Please. He says that writing this memoir, which covers enough passages from his intimate life, is like “walking down the street”.
Response. In a suspicious way I was told what had happened I dress in my skin.
P. If you want to be a writer, give a great insight into the language. “It distorts what is proposed to be held in memory,” he says. ¿To the relay This is a round piece of meat Do you realize that now is the truth of your life?
R. Language is not reality, but it is the best, if not the only, way to approach it. And at the same time, the fact that it allows us to know her as she is in another way, we can understand her in her entirety. Yes, I think so This is a round piece of meatas the title suggests, there are fragments that reflect with the greatest possible clarity some of the most significant or least significant passages of my life.
P. At this point, it is strange how it relates to the strong rise of the direction of the Fondo de Cultura Económica in 2002. I wanted to reconstruct those painful things without remembering the notes that took place when it happened. Why do you trust your memory more than the “right actions” of your business?
R. It is not that I trust my memory more than the notes written at the end of the accounts, until the act of recording them without such prosthesis and with greater spontaneity is more in keeping with the spirit of the book, that It is not an autobiography, but rather a sequence of memories.
Notes that are now perhaps more objective, but in this book, which is part of the author’s literature, we can give them an insight into the subjective evaluation of living moments, because, paradoxically, it seems, subjectivity is an essential part of reality.
P. This episode highlights the dialectic between culture, politics and economics. There is a person who has noticed the management of costs very important in Mexican cultural life. In addition to the UNAM Fund and the Academia Mexicana de la Lengua. What should one look for in a performance of strength?
R. The first of these is to take care of the same thing, Fr that your principles and your goals are not falsified by the flattery or inefficiency of subordinates; I’m going after him, that It is more important to know than to orderand third, that coordination tasks must not vertically replace the direct functions of collaborators.
“Mexico needs a stricter, less atavistic education system with regard to nationalism and more open to the world”
P. This is a round piece of meat it shows an existence dedicated to culture. How would I summarize the beneficial effect it has on society?
R. It seems to me that you must simultaneously wait on two sides of equal importance, the creator and the recipient of the creation. Don’t stop supporting writers or artists; let’s train readers and create an audience capable of recreating the artwork.
P. A long time ago, when I was walking through the UNAM installations, a speech from their classes told me that they definitely represent the biggest problem of social integration and vertebrates in Latin America. What point are you making with this statement?
R. I totally agree with her. UNAM is a Mexican institution that offers the largest social movement in the country. I cannot know if it is the most dissolvable of Latin America in this kingdom, I can say that UNAM has had a strong social vocation since its beginnings that included the whole continent. This is clearly shown on the shield itself, which includes a map of Latin America.
P. In his book, he recalls the joyous nature of coming to this campus and meeting, in addition to sexual companions, students from different walks of life. That’s an important mix, isn’t it?
R. For supuesto, and not just for diversity in terms of gender and social class; also because it affects ideology, religion, nationality.
P. What does Mexico need today, besides its UNAM, to advance this social progress and turnaround?
R. Greater economic equality, without subjection to dogmatic and paternalistic political commitments, equality between men and women in a context in which still free of violence and machismoand a more rigorous education system, less atavistic with regard to nationalism and more open to the world.
P. Of course, how lively has the controversy been over the past few years over López Obrador’s controversial request to King Felipe VI?
R. Given that this request for forgiveness was made in 2019, manifested on VIII. the International Congress of the Spanish Language celebrated in Córdoba, Argentina, which seemed to me an unreasonable act of the Mexican Government, which demanded forgiveness from the Spanish State for the abuses committed during the Spanish conquest. a country that wasn’t Mexico when Spain wasn’t Spainaround the middle of the millennium.
“The Golden Signs represent the pinnacle of our language’s literature as Spain searches for its identity”
»Hay en esa request a retrotopian attitude that feels nostalgic for a lost paradise that never existed in such a way that he is unable to assume the dominant part of his identity except in that Mexico is simply not called Mexico.
P. The Spanish exile greatly contributed to his intellectual education. All the different professors (Luis Rius, Gloria Caballero…) who came out of this exodus. How would you sum up your influence in Mexico?
R. Determinant. There is no area of culture, including academia, art, and dissemination within it, in which the Spanish exile has not left its beneficial mark: poetry, music, theater, scientific and humanistic research, publishing and dissemination activities. My life, in my high life, was marked by exileas I wrote in a pamphlet entitled with verse by Pedro Garfias, Spanish river of red blood. The Republican exile professors taught us two things that never happen: rigor and tolerance.
P. His story for the history of Spain (especially the golden age) is a “passion”. Why is this period appealing to you?
R. If it’s nothing out of the ordinary. The Golden Signs represent the pinnacle of the literature of our language as Spain strives for its own identity as a result of the confluence of so many different cultures in its land.
“The Republican exile professors taught us two things that will never happen: rigor and tolerance.”
P. He also got into flamenco in Spain, where he fell in love with a dancer. From his hand he entered “Jonduras”. Antonio de Mairena, El Lebrijano, Manuel Agujetas… Do you still listen to flamenco?
R. Not with the old devotion, but I can tell I listened in vain to the well received Diego ‘El Cigal’ and Bebo Valdés album for me. It’s a brilliant advice of flamenco, bolero and Havana piano reminiscence, what more could I ask for?
P. Evoke on ‘vida golfa’ en los antros de Ciudad de México. Do you consider those huts in those who are doctors for ANTROpólogo a second university?
R. Mainly not from an academic point of view, but from a fundamental point of view yes. Through these “civic practices” you can better understand the society I live in and discover unknown sides of the human condition.
“I hope to surpass the beauty in good physical condition, because it still does not exhaust the terrifying spirit.
P. In these places, especially Bar León, all the boleros, a genre that originated in Spain and created new forms in America, were played, all in Cuba. What a beautiful process of musical syncretism, isn’t it?
R. Yes, musical and cultural.
P. What bolero would you say best reflects this moment in your life?
R. I forgot that you forgotby composer and singer Lolita de la Colina.
P. Look at Cervantes at the top of Peace, Fuentes, Bioy, Borges… Who is it on this Olympus?
R. Abrumado.
P. I assume you keep the discussion very advanced. where do i want to go
R. If you’re a poet, you probably feel weird talking about your own poetry. But literature yo it is also practiced in prose: in the novel, in the essay, and above all in the memoir, the genres in which my literature asked me to endure. This is how I talked about my “narrative poetry”. Por supuesto que también I will refer you to the Cervantes administration in the literature of our language -about language-.
P. To the singing faculties belongs something that falls to cancer in the girl of the one who luckily got up next. How do you cope with the horizon of such intensive days of socialization, in which you will receive more words and have to touch your lips frequently?
R. With concerns. The voice I hold, from my petty and pedantic nature, comes to me as it was from the pillars. And I want it to be heard everywhere in open or popular places. They advised me that it doesn’t take much effort to not waste it, but the phoniatrician helped me decide that it’s better to exercise as much as possible to make it strong, so it’s not like it’s the best fit.
P. What is the biggest illusion of beauty they had?
R. That they can survive at least in good physical conditions because they still don’t lose the terror of the spirit.
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